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Violation of MRR rules
« on: April 26, 2009, 04:18:12 AM »
I have been bumbling around a bit with my MRR products, and realized that most internet marketers don't exactly follow the Master Resell Rights rules of the product.

For example:
250 Wordpress plugins (MRR Software Dec 08) - Cannot be offered through auction sites like eBay, but there is one    seller infopack1 from Canada selling it for less than USD 1!!!

Not to mention there are tons of other sellers not following the lowest selling price allowed in the resell rights?

How would you seniors deal with this, kinda in a dilemma now :(



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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 06:59:55 AM »
I have been bumbling around a bit with my MRR products, and realized that most internet marketers don't exactly follow the Master Resell Rights rules of the product.

For example:
250 Wordpress plugins (MRR Software Dec 08) - Cannot be offered through auction sites like eBay, but there is one    seller infopack1 from Canada selling it for less than USD 1!!!

Not to mention there are tons of other sellers not following the lowest selling price allowed in the resell rights?

How would you seniors deal with this, kinda in a dilemma now :(

shadowdawn

There will always be short sighted marketers (I use that term lightly) on the vast highway named the Internet.

They are just after a quick buck and email addresses.

I am not too sure what we can do about it. 8)shh

In the long term if we run a genuine business and look after our customers,

these same customers will remain loyal and come back to us for more products at a fair price.

Jim

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 08:44:13 AM »
Hi Shadowdawn,

In my opinion Jim nailed it when he said "customers will remain loyal and come back to us for more products at a fair price."

What happens is that quite often you get new marketers coming online who either don't take the time to understand the product license or they simply don't care. In all fairness, I think most times it is a matter of simply overlooking the license. (or misinterpreting ... I've been guilty of that one!  :()

But there are a few marketers out there that simply don't care about the license, and they do whatever they want. It's these same marketers that swipe your articles off of EzineArticles.com without using your sig or resource box. It's these same marketers that buy your 75 page ebook and ask for a refund 5 minutes later because it "wasn't any good".

SO what should you do?

In my opinion, nothing.

Just continue to do your thing. Concentrate on YOUR business ... concentrate on providing value to your customers and taking care of those who do business with you. Like Jim said, if you take care of them they will continue to come back to you.

Also, when you offer a MRR product try to differentiate yourself by adding to the offer. That way your offer (although its the same product) will be perceived as having more value.

Well, I have to go. Andrea (wife) says it time to leave for church ... talk to you guys later!

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 03:35:42 PM »
From my own viewpoint, I usually deal with people that I feel like I can trust. In dealing with someone it doens't take too long to figure out what that person is made of. I can name several marketers online that I would never buy anything from. And I can name several that I would look at whatever they suggest. All becuase of trust.

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2009, 06:35:53 AM »
From my own viewpoint, I usually deal with people that I feel like I can trust. In dealing with someone it doens't take too long to figure out what that person is made of. I can name several marketers online that I would never buy anything from. And I can name several that I would look at whatever they suggest. All becuase of trust.

William

William

When we become more experienced with Internet Marketing, it's true that it is easy to pick out people you can trust and people you cannot trust.

Although we can get it wrong sometimes.

Personally I begin to get a little cautious when a marketer with a large list sends out 'this is personal' subject line emails.

Jim

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2009, 08:38:44 PM »
I have been bumbling around a bit with my MRR products, and realized that most internet marketers don't exactly follow the Master Resell Rights rules of the product.

For example:
250 Wordpress plugins (MRR Software Dec 08) - Cannot be offered through auction sites like eBay, but there is one    seller infopack1 from Canada selling it for less than USD 1!!!

Not to mention there are tons of other sellers not following the lowest selling price allowed in the resell rights?

How would you seniors deal with this, kinda in a dilemma now :(

Shadowdawn,

Thank you for posting about this situation with the apparent "abuse" with MRR at eBay and in other places around the web.

It's a sad, sad situation that this happens. And it's too bad because it may give those of us who follow the guidelines a bit of a struggle.

Having said that, as Mark and Jim have already said, we can just continue to work on our businesses and on giving our clients and customers the best product and service we can; in the end we'll be the ones people line up for and come back to.

I also like Mark's suggestion to provide customers with something a little extra, in addition to the initial product or service. 

As far as how you handle the dilemma, you'll make the right decision.

Re: eBay. I believe they have a "report" problems section. Perhaps you could report it to eBay...if it's something you don't think you can get past.

Otherwise, I'd consider just continuing to do my own thing and let that other one alone.

In the end, you'll be the winner. You're the one with the integrity!

Karen

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 10:55:39 PM »
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In all fairness, I think most times it is a matter of simply overlooking the license. (or misinterpreting ... I've been guilty of that one!  )

I was actually going to chime in and mention something similar to this before reading what Mark had already written.  I myself have been notified 2 separate times that I was in violation of licensing agreements.  Luckily for me, I was able to point them in the direction of my place of purchase which showed them illegally modified terms were to blame, and not abuse or misunderstanding on my end. 

As for what to do, and if I felt it was worth my time, I'd contact the seller and just let them know of the situation, see if it changed, and if not contact the creator and/or marketplace it was being sold at.  After that, I'd simply let it go and continue doing what I'm here to do, as spending more time or energy than that would simply be putting yourself out at that point, IMO.

Just my two cents....


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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 12:12:55 PM »
Some fantastic advice from everyone!

Ry's comment regarding talking to the seller then the originator would be the proper proceedure. The originator would have the right to approach eBay directly if needed. Sadly, we are in an industry that we also sometimes have to police.  :''(

One thing that might be worth mentioning ... in the U.S.A. you cannot dictate what a reseller is selling something for. So when you see "must resell for no less than $17" it's an item that cannot be enforced in court. HOWEVER, it's always best to respect it.

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 07:32:02 PM »
in the U.S.A. you cannot dictate what a reseller is selling something for. So when you see "must resell for no less than $17" it's an item that cannot be enforced in court. HOWEVER, it's always best to respect it.


I agree, if you undercut the suggested price your just lessening the value for all resellers, of course there will always be those looking for the fast buck.

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 04:49:07 PM »
in the U.S.A. you cannot dictate what a reseller is selling something for. So when you see "must resell for no less than $17" it's an item that cannot be enforced in court. HOWEVER, it's always best to respect it.


I agree, if you undercut the suggested price your just lessening the value for all resellers, of course there will always be those looking for the fast buck.

Frank

Frank,

Thank you for your comments.

And welcome back...I haven't seen you in like forever.   ::P

I trust you've had a great summer.


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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 07:36:10 AM »
Even I purchased an MRR for $ 6

I thought I'd sell it for $ 5.

When I saw the license...

It specifically stated that I could not sell it for less than $9.95.

I complained to PayPal and asked for a refund.

The seller contacted PayPal.

PayPal closed the case...

WITHOUT giving me a refund. >:(

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 12:15:36 PM »
Even I purchased an MRR for $ 6

I thought I'd sell it for $ 5.

When I saw the license...

It specifically stated that I could not sell it for less than $9.95.

I complained to PayPal and asked for a refund.

The seller contacted PayPal.

PayPal closed the case...

WITHOUT giving me a refund. >:(



Veena,

That's a bummer that you've had a bad experience with the seller and in not getting your money back.

As has already been mentioned, sometimes there are those who will push the envelope and get away with it; no matter who gets hurt by it.

Although probably no consolation at losing $6 in this way, the good thing is it wasn't more.

Karen

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Re: Violation of MRR rules
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2010, 02:05:29 PM »
Even I purchased an MRR for $ 6

I thought I'd sell it for $ 5.

When I saw the license...

It specifically stated that I could not sell it for less than $9.95.

I complained to PayPal and asked for a refund.

The seller contacted PayPal.

PayPal closed the case...

WITHOUT giving me a refund. >:(



Veena,

That's a bummer that you've had a bad experience with the seller and in not getting your money back.

As has already been mentioned, sometimes there are those who will push the envelope and get away with it; no matter who gets hurt by it.

Although probably no consolation at losing $6 in this way, the good thing is it wasn't more.

Karen

But am real bugged with Paypal...
They did not help at all. >:(
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