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Offline Ron Seigel

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MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« on: November 25, 2014, 06:32:18 PM »
Hi all,

I'm just starting out here (very familiar with marketing/sales both online and off - just not this type) and I'm looking for the best newsletter solution.

I like the look and feel of MailChimp. GetResponse looks professional. The WP Newsletter looks good for a self-hosted solution - https://wordpress.org/plugins/newsletter/

I'm not the least bit hesitant about spending money - hundreds, thousands, whatever - as long as there's a RIO over the horizon of course.

Can some of you please give me some reasons for and against the above. FYI....I've lookad at ZVZoo and I'm really not interested in going that direction - I prefer self-hosting everything.

Thanks to all...

Cheers,

Ron



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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2014, 07:33:06 PM »
I think you meant JVZoo not ZVZoo.  You can self host everything and still sell products on jvzoo.  Most people do that.  I have used JVZoo's hosting for some of my salespages and download pages as an experiment.  I also host salespages and download pages as well.  JVZoo is one of the best affiliate marketing platforms out there and can make you some serious money with no upfront cost. 

As far as autoresponders.  I use aweber and I have been with them for years.  Remember mailchimp has a limitation for the free version Send 12,000 emails to 2,000 subscribers for free (if you want to send more than 12000 emails a month you need one of the paid plans).  I dont have getresponse and have never used wp newsletter before but self hosting an autoresponder does have its problems if you dont configure things properly.  If the configuration isnt right your emails might be considered spam.

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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2014, 08:26:33 PM »
Thanks Jerome for the info.  o::)

"I think you meant JVZoo not ZVZoo."

Don't know what to say to that.  ::P

I understand what you're saying about ZVZoo....it just doesn't jive with my approach. I actually have a paid version of zrox affiliate manager when I need it. I'm just not going the affiliate direction yet.

Also, I'm fine with a subscription to MailChimp or GetResponse or whatever. Money isn't my issue - results are.

You gave me something to think about.

Thanks,

Ron


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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2014, 08:37:25 PM »
I prefer the newsletter created as a PDF, stored in dropbox, and sent to my audience as a link. Here's an online program I've used to make a prototype newsletter (thought it came out pretty good): https://www.lucidpress.com (not an affiliate link).

Mailchimp get s lot of good reviews.

Here's one possibility for a completely self-hosted AR-
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers/894058-best-self-hosted-autoresponder-ultimate-warrior-hosting-pack-im-wet-dream-limited-time-wso.html.

Hope these ideas help some. - MM


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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 01:53:26 AM »
Thanks magicman.

Every idea gets get me closer.  :cool:

I think I've decided to dump mailchimp. GetResponse seem a bit more suited to the way I like to work.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated though.

Cheers,

Ron

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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 02:05:11 AM »
You might want to look through that thread...especially on the last page.  There seem to be a few problems with that self hosted AR system...IP addresses getting banned...slow response to support tickets...do your due diligence.

Jerome


Here's one possibility for a completely self-hosted AR-
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers/894058-best-self-hosted-autoresponder-ultimate-warrior-hosting-pack-im-wet-dream-limited-time-wso.html.

Hope these ideas help some. - MM

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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 02:22:08 AM »
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I like the look and feel of MailChimp.

Mailchimp is a good autoresponder but as Jerome stated it is limited with its free service.

I do not think the big 2 have a free option that is as good as Mailchimp though.

Unfortunately this service does not like Internet Marketers and would most likely cancel your account.

Mailchimp is great for charitable type lists.

Jim

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2014, 02:57:02 PM »
I'm not the least bit hesitant about spending money - hundreds, thousands, whatever - as long as there's a RIO over the horizon of course.

Hey Ron, why spend any more than is absolutely necessary as long as you meet your needs... to do so is irresponsible IMO, but after all that is all that is... my opinion.

I have always had very good results from my flat-rate provider (been with them for over 5 years with only 1 really minor issue in all that time)
http://www.trafficwave.net/members/earnmorewith/marketers.html

and yes, I'd really appreciate you using my 'affiliate' link...
we are all here to make a few bucks after all  :wistle: aren't we.

After your 30 day free trial... for less than $20/month you get unlimited lists, unlimited subscribers and unlimited ad tracking so that you can do things like

  • increase sales.
  • announce time-sensitive offers.
  • send out back-end offers.
  • segment lists in to prospects and buyers.
  • split-test various offers.
  • do list swaps with other marketers. 
  • build your own lists of targeted and RESPONSIVE prospects.
  • build solid relationships.
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  • train your customers.
  • build multiple revenue streams.
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  • increase retail and wholesale sales.
  • sign up new affiliates.
  • liquidate close-outs.
  • send digital coupons.
  • promote contests and give-aways.
  • drive repeat sales.
  • test multiple offers.
  • attract new clients.
  • ...and the list goes on...

John

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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 04:32:50 PM »
Thanks for the info John.

I see some advantages to using TrafficWave - just not what I'm looking for though.

I've chosen to go with GetResponse (for now at least). I don't look forward to the idea of doing it on my server due to the problems that can happen down the road. I'd rather a hosted solution take that on.

I'll post back here once I've been using it a while.....

Thanks,

Ron

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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 05:17:15 PM »
I have not used Mailchimp, but was going to say the same as what Jim said, that I've heard they did not like marketers. Which is kind of odd if you if ask me, as most people using a AR service are using it to market in some form or another.

I've been with Aweber for a long time and can't really complain. My only slight negatives is how they push so hard for double optin. And once your account is set to double optin, you can't go back. I can understand their "reasons", but in some instances it doesn't make sense. Like when some one buys something from me, I should have to make them confirm their email address. Or when some one has already confirmed their email address, I can't move them to another list, like when they take a certain action. The other slight negative is that you can't label your messages. When you have a growing follow series, it would be nice to easily see which are content or which or promotional. Not a big deal, but seems a simple option they could add.

I tried GetRespose for a short time and for the most part it's a great service. Biggest issue I had is that the support staff did not seem very knowledgeable. I asked some legit questions and felt like I could not get a answer and seemed to be blown off a couple times. Plus there was not much in the form of docs, knowledge base, ect. Maybe that's changed now.

One thing though, think there might be some confusion. JVzoo is a sales system, not an autoresponder service. Not something you would use to do email marketing. They are a completely different animal compared to mailchimp or get response. You probably know this.

A self hosted email service does have some advantages, but as already mentioned, it has it's drawbacks. Keeping from getting marked as a spammer, staying the good side or email providers ect. I personally would rather pay a service that knows how to take care of all that, so I can focus on my business and making an income.

Course, just my opinions.


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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 11:20:16 PM »
In the last 14 years I tried most of them, but settled on Get Response. I don't use it a lot, but when I do I usually email all my lists the same broadcast, so it makes it simple. I also have never paid after the first $15 when I upgraded, since if you get a referral you each get a $30 credit and as a marketer when they see me actually using it, getting one every couple of months is not that hard. I'm not looking to make an income from it, just to get mine free.

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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2014, 06:19:43 PM »
Has anyone here ever tried www.TrafficWave.net

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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 11:19:44 AM »
Has anyone here ever tried www.TrafficWave.net

Yes four times, but that spells out the problem and why I am on Resell Rights Weekly. Traffic Wave as an autoresponder is old and expensive, but people join it in hopes of building residual income from the MLM side. There are tons of marketing schemes like team builders using it, so the competition is stiff. I have used some and built it to a few dozen subscribers, but they end up quitting no matter how much you help them, so I would end up quitting too. Then another bright shiny scheme would come along and I would try it again. Maybe it's just me, but there is a contact and mailing system built into RRW and I have Get Response that I have never had to pay for (referrals earn me $30 each and my bill is $15), so I am concentrating on Resell Rights Products.


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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 07:03:07 PM »
Has anyone here ever tried www.TrafficWave.net

Yes, I have been with them for several years with only one minor issue in all that time. There are a few of the clients I work with who are still committed to using those other services (personally I am not sure why)

Some seem to think that $18/month so very expensive compared to others like GetResponse, Aweber, etc., but is it really more expensive ?

List Size  Aweber  ConstantContact  IContact  GetResponse  TrafficeWave
0 -500   $19.00  $15.00  $10.00-14.00*  $18.00*  $17.95
501 - 2,500   $29.00  $30.00  $14.00-29.00*  $28.00*  $17.95
2501 - 10,000   $49.00-69.00  $75.00  $29.00-74.00*  $45.00*  $17.95
* Pricing info is a range and will vary based on list size and other variables


And with the 30 day free trial you can check it out for yourself
http://www.trafficwave.net/members/earnmorewith/marketers.html
and yes, I'd really appreciate you using my 'affiliate' link...
We are all here to make a few bucks after all  :wistle: aren't we"

I suppose when you’re only sending a few hundred or even thousand emails a month, the costs you’re paying to do so probably isn’t that important... but if you are anyway serious about real success in marketing then it might be a whole more important than many realize...

If there is anything i can do to assist, please do not hesitate to ask

John Getson

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Re: MailChimp vs GetResponse vs WP Newletter
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2015, 01:34:53 PM »
I agree with magicman PDF in either drop box or Media fire. those would be my pick for the news letter.

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